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miniupnp Site Admin
Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 1593
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: using miniupnpd for XBOX and XBOX 360 |
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The XBOX and XBOX 360 need to have their IP assigned by DHCP in order to use UPnP to forward port and then use Live services.
Microsoft coders have followed UPnP standard that recommend that each device on an UPnP enabled network to have their IP assigned by DHCP.
So if your NAT is showing as strict, fist check that DHCP and UPnP are enabled ! _________________ Main miniUPnP author.
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paulus
Joined: 17 Oct 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have been using miniupnpd as implemented in Routertech RT2.94. Using DHCP and upnp ONE Xbox works fine, however a second Xbox then gets a restricted NAT. Some implementations of upnp can accommodate multipe Xboxes all with open NAT - will it be possible to provide this in miniupnpd? |
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miniupnp Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well, as I don't have multiple XBOX's, I dont know what is the problem that make the seco nd Xbox get a restricted NAT.
If the cause could be identified, it would be possible to solve the problem. _________________ Main miniUPnP author.
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paulus
Joined: 17 Oct 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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I am not a networking expert, however I believe the problem lies in the fact that the Xbox uses fixed ports - every Xbox the same ports! miniupnpd allocates the pprts to the first Xbox, then the second cannot have them and cannot be allocated other ports. Somehow certain implementation get around this - not sure how, but microsoft have "certified" certain implementations of upnp and all of the certified versions can support multiple Xboxes all with open NAT. |
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paulus
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:16 am Post subject: |
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If you now understand the requirement, and possibly how to implement it, is this a development that is likely to happen, or is it at the bottom of a wish list? |
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miniupnp Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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paulus wrote: | If you now understand the requirement, and possibly how to implement it, is this a development that is likely to happen, or is it at the bottom of a wish list? |
well I'm not sure to understand the requirement :
If the XBOX requires to use an already used port, it will fail. The correct implementation on the XBOX side would be to ask for another port. I dont know how other UPNP implementations could get around this.
I guess it would need a lot of sniffing and analysing to understand what happens. _________________ Main miniUPnP author.
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paulus
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miniupnp Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:39 am Post subject: |
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well I dont have access to any of this routers. _________________ Main miniUPnP author.
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paulus
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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miniupnpd IS FANTASTIC!
This problem is solved. With all of the options tried - and failed, I finally reloaded the firmware and it worked perfectly, supporting my 2 Xboxes both with Open NAT.
Thanks for you help, and please forgive me for ever doubting that miniupnpd may not be "proper". |
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karolina
Joined: 10 Jan 2014 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I have Xbox 360 and I had 2 accounts.Three days ago I signed to Xbox live and I created a new account in my Xbox 360 called Matador. But right now I am trying to play with my cousin in Xbox live. He uses one of the Xbox accounts and I use the other one. We have P.G.R. 4 and we both want to play in Xbox live. We are using one TV and one Xbox 360. How can we play together in Xbox live using one console and one TV? And with out subscribing again to Xbox live can we do that?
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miniupnp Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:47 am Post subject: |
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karolina wrote: | I have Xbox 360 and I had 2 accounts.Three days ago I signed to Xbox live and I created a new account in my Xbox 360 called Matador. But right now I am trying to play with my cousin in Xbox live. He uses one of the Xbox accounts and I use the other one. We have P.G.R. 4 and we both want to play in Xbox live. We are using one TV and one Xbox 360. How can we play together in Xbox live using one console and one TV? And with out subscribing again to Xbox live can we do that? |
I don't think it is a question regarding UPNP and XBOX 360 NAT status. You should go to a XBOX Live specific forum. _________________ Main miniUPnP author.
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mannii
Joined: 28 Oct 2014 Posts: 1 Location: fsd
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Microsoft coders have followed UPnP standard that recommend that each device on an UPnP enabled network to have their IP assigned by DHCP. |
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ifrimmel
Joined: 03 Jan 2015 Posts: 3 Location: GA, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:38 am Post subject: DHCP Pre-Assigned IP's DO NOT fix this. |
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I am currently trying a bunch of different approaches to getting this working.
The bottomline is that it seems that xbox one NEEDS 3074 to get out of the NAT'd network. HOWEVER if there are 2 xboxes, 3074 will NOT be shared properly, nor will the Xboxes fail over to another port. |
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miniupnp Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:08 am Post subject: thankyou |
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thank you |
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